[Mercedes] OT: Dishwashers

Dimitri Seretakis dseretakis at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 18 12:01:58 EST 2025 

Prole drift- the tendency toward shitification. Most obvious now with cheap stretchy and thin fabric on premium brand jeans and tattoos on even some “upper class” individuals.
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> On Dec 18, 2025, at 11:44 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes at okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> My 40 year old kitchen-aid is starting to give us fits. I'm going to fix it. A door latch failing after 4 years is completely unacceptable.
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> The enshitification of everthing...
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> -Curt - shouting at birds or whatever...
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> On Thursday, December 18, 2025 at 11:27:28 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes at okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> The door lock latch mechanism broke after 4 years. $150 repair. Otherwise, the dispenser for rinse aid leaks during replenishment.
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>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 10:49 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <mercedes at okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> I’m not saying they don’t break, but in general they work so well compared to other brands I would probably still buy one regardless of reviews.
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>>>> On Dec 18, 2025, at 7:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes at okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>> I forgot to mention I bought a Bosch dishwasher under the recommendation of Poos, and it seems like after around 5 years or less it quit working, control board dead. Home warranty company paid for a new one so I bought another Bosch. So far it’s been fine. Not sure if the first one was just a one off or not but it didn’t last long.
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>>>> On Dec 17, 2025, at 3:02 PM, Mark E. Peneguy via Mercedes <mercedes at okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>>>  My appliance service tech told me to buy either a GE washer and dryer, or a Speed Queen. He said if I buy GE, don't do it after 2022 since the Chinese bought the GE appliance arm of GE (I think it's the same as Heier) and they were going to move production to China. I think I heard the appliance production is moving back to the states, but I'm not sure.
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>>>> About 15 years ago, I bought a Samsung refrigerator-freezer and it worked fine for about 10 years. An electronic part broke and the refrigerator quit cooling (not sure what it was, but it would not send cold air from the freezer to the refrigerator). The part was NLA and the appliance techs couldn't fix it.
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>>>> I went to the scratch and dent place and found a new GE (made in Mexico, not China) for 1/2 the price of a new one. It had a scratched door, which was replaced before delivery. All is well these years later.
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>>>> (Next time I need a dishwasher, I will be buying Bosch. Too many have recommended it highly, for me to ignore it.)
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>>>> On 12/17/2025 3:09 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
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>>>>> Just to point out that I mentioned Bosch originally, not that it matters. 😁
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>>>>> There is a place in town that sells nothing but scratch and dent appliances. Literally, a whole warehouse of the stuff. The owners, whom I have spoken to on a number of occasions as well as having purchased about $15k (retail price) of appliances fro them, will NOT sell LG or Samsung products. They only sell domestic brands such as GE or Whirlpool. Why? According to them, the return/failure rates on the Asian stuff are far too high for them to be profitable. They purchase truckloads from the manufacturers and everything is brand new and has full factory warranties, but they said that in the 15 years or so of them doing this they learned quickly that LG and Samsung are not reliable brands.
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>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2025, at 2:02 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <mercedes at okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> I agree with Andrew here. Buy Bosch.
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>>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2025, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes at okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>> We love our Bosch dishwasher and use it about 5x weekly. Had a few repairs in the [past 5 years, but nothing significant. Highly recommended.
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>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 1:40 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <mercedes at okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> My old KitchenAid dishwasher has stopped working. Appears that the pump motor is siezed. New pump assembly available from RepairClinic for $169, motor alone is $149 but I'd probably go with the whole assembly since that all has to come out anyway to replace the motor.
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>>>>>>>> On the other hand the unit is about 20 years old. Is it worth repairing? Stainless steel tub but most of the guts are plastic and it's all looking pretty brittle at this point.
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>>>>>>>> I'm going to run by the local scratch-and-dent appliance place and see what they have.
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>>>>>>>> Lowes had a "Midea" brand (looks like Chinese?) that they claim is highly rated by Consumer Reports for about $450. Anyone know anything about those? Also Samsung, or Frigidaire or Amana etc. models for even less. I'm not convinced there's a ton of difference at that price point but maybe? Amana used to be a good brand but I think it's just another Whirlpool label at this point (as is my KitchenAid). I'm a bit wary of Samsung based on reviews of their other stuff.
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>>>>>>>> Can't see dropping the $$$ on a Bosch, Miele, Fisher&Paykel or similar.
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